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clinton was very shrewd that way so kudos to two bright presidents, reagan and clinton. >> dan, i want to bring you in because it's a much different global economy than it was in the '40s and '50s. is this working against a large-scale rebound like we saw after roosevelt? it's a very different world. >> well, look, first of all, the notion that obama didn't cut taxes and all he did was absurd. the stimulus was one-third tax cuts, big payroll tax cuts. plenty of tax cuts. >> very true. >> and for small business tax cuts, too. >> export boom, exports on a monthly basis have risen 50% from their low in march of 2009. the difference is that we have an economy in which rising demand doesn't necessarily translate into more jobs instantly because we're so good at being productive. we use machinery and software computers. the other big difference between now and the '40s and '40 50s the rest of the world had basically destroyed the rest of its capacity in world war ii so we made everything we wanted, cars, t-shirts, socks, televisions, electronics. we made that all here in the u.s., were consu
clinton was very shrewd that way so kudos to two bright presidents, reagan and clinton. >> dan, i want to bring you in because it's a much different global economy than it was in the '40s and '50s. is this working against a large-scale rebound like we saw after roosevelt? it's a very different world. >> well, look, first of all, the notion that obama didn't cut taxes and all he did was absurd. the stimulus was one-third tax cuts, big payroll tax cuts. plenty of tax cuts. >>...
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another was an a list concert with stevie wonder and bill clinton. more details in the live report in a minute from los angeles. >>> four, three, two, one. and liftoff. liftoff of the spacex falcon nine rocket. >> that marking a new era. the first commercial flight into space. nasa has assigned spacex to a contract to ship cargo to i.s.s. live report from florida 20 minutes away. >>> the meningitis out break has grown by one-third in just 24 hours. 27 cases since yesterday. nearly half of the new cases in michigan. meningitis has been linked to contaminated steroid injections. the company issued a voluntary recall for all its products. >>> it's half 9:00 at night in venezuela where most of the country's voting places are still open right now. presidential election day and the polls will stay open as long as people are waiting in line to vote. hugo chavez is trying to win another term as president. he's been in charge for 13 years there. >>> now to some very disturbing video from the syrian war. some viewers, particularly children may want to look awa
another was an a list concert with stevie wonder and bill clinton. more details in the live report in a minute from los angeles. >>> four, three, two, one. and liftoff. liftoff of the spacex falcon nine rocket. >> that marking a new era. the first commercial flight into space. nasa has assigned spacex to a contract to ship cargo to i.s.s. live report from florida 20 minutes away. >>> the meningitis out break has grown by one-third in just 24 hours. 27 cases since...
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bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in ter
bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would...
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by president clinton, silenced the i.r.a. guns for the landmark agreement that ended decades of bloodshed. and ultimately emerged as the most influential and important catholic politician in northern ireland. gerry adams has refused our request for an interview, but in the past he has said many times he was never in the i.r.a. and certainly never involved in the death of jean mcconville. his press spokesman goes further, labeling adams' critics as anti the peace process. but the interviews held in the secret archive and the words of brendan hughes tell a very different story about adams and his actions. >> brendan hughes wasn't the type to tell lies. >> richard o'rourke who shared a jail cell with hughes remembers how close hughes and adams were. >> hughes and adams were inseparable, ideologically they were virtually inseparable. his whole talk was about gerry. >> i trusted the man at that time, and i trusted his political maneuvering and his political direction. >> by the late 1970s, hughes, o'rourke, anthony mcintyre and hu
by president clinton, silenced the i.r.a. guns for the landmark agreement that ended decades of bloodshed. and ultimately emerged as the most influential and important catholic politician in northern ireland. gerry adams has refused our request for an interview, but in the past he has said many times he was never in the i.r.a. and certainly never involved in the death of jean mcconville. his press spokesman goes further, labeling adams' critics as anti the peace process. but the interviews held...
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secretary clinton has said she is going to cooperate and provide. those exchanges -- we want to make sure we look at all of the documents fully, rather than just, if you will, whistle blower side of the story. and that's the nature of our committee, is we get a credible and verified allegation of a failure anywhere, and then we follow it up with full confirmation on both sides and that's what we expect to do between now and the 10th with the goal on the 10th to make sure this doesn't happen again in some other embassy or with some other foreign service personnel around the world. >> so it's interesting, because i know you're referencing an individual that you have information from saying that there were multiple security incidents. but this issue of repeated requests being denied i think is really at the heart -- from -- of what the letter says today. and the reason i wanted to ask you about the sources is because the state department is telling cnn tonight that security upgrades were actually made to the benghazi mission in part in response to some
secretary clinton has said she is going to cooperate and provide. those exchanges -- we want to make sure we look at all of the documents fully, rather than just, if you will, whistle blower side of the story. and that's the nature of our committee, is we get a credible and verified allegation of a failure anywhere, and then we follow it up with full confirmation on both sides and that's what we expect to do between now and the 10th with the goal on the 10th to make sure this doesn't happen...
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it's why bill clinton's speech was so successful and they call him the explainer in chief. you can explain the math to you and make you see why the numbers don't add up and why mitt romney is cute on these things. the third thing is simple. i said in the show yesterday, mitt romney is really good when he's carrying out prescripted attacks. that is all he did for 90 minutes last night. he spent months preparing for in and had every line internalized and he's good at that. you need to knock him off that game. think about the primaries. when rick perry started to mix it up with him a little bit, that's where the $10,000 bet came from. you income him off the script, and that's where the trouble starts for mitt romney. obama didn't even try. >> i completely agree with that. mitt romney, as you said, he's very good when he can go and say what he wants to say. they didn't take any moment or opportunity to get him off the game. the other failure i would say is overall the president and his team have been excellent at framing this election as a choice rather than a referendum. last
it's why bill clinton's speech was so successful and they call him the explainer in chief. you can explain the math to you and make you see why the numbers don't add up and why mitt romney is cute on these things. the third thing is simple. i said in the show yesterday, mitt romney is really good when he's carrying out prescripted attacks. that is all he did for 90 minutes last night. he spent months preparing for in and had every line internalized and he's good at that. you need to knock him...
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he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in terms of that business record. i think mitt romney's biggest problem though, chris, is the sense people can't be sure exactly if he believes what he's saying. he needs to project authentic passion for what he believes his plan would do for the american economy to make the 47% lives better as well as the other 53. >> what do you think, e.j.? >> i thought the definitive line on politics, what you need is sincerity, if you can fake that, you can do anything. it's troublesome on this question of authenticate. what is authenticity? romney has taken a number of
he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in...
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when i chaired the panel for the clinton global initiative. they are lloyd blankfein the chairman and ce o o of goldman sachs. andrew live russ, the chairman and ceo of dow chemical and john chambers the chair manned and ceo of cisco. the conversation was fascinating. listen in. >>> lloyd, let me start with you. when you look at the global economy, right now, you know, what is it, four years after the crash, what does it look like to you? >> well, we're definitely in a m muddle-through phase, slow growth, very disappointing. but i think one of the things that was achieved -- and by the way, in hindsight it may look small but while we were living through it, it was very large. there was a substantial chance that things would fall off the rail. a lot of things that foster growth are still uncertain and are still, you know, frankly they're still in the forward. but i think what was taken off the table recently by the -- frankly by the central banks acting by themselves and less by government through fiscal policy was the real blow-up risk. so if
when i chaired the panel for the clinton global initiative. they are lloyd blankfein the chairman and ce o o of goldman sachs. andrew live russ, the chairman and ceo of dow chemical and john chambers the chair manned and ceo of cisco. the conversation was fascinating. listen in. >>> lloyd, let me start with you. when you look at the global economy, right now, you know, what is it, four years after the crash, what does it look like to you? >> well, we're definitely in a m...
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contributor sam stein of the "the huffington post," former hillary clinton adviser and deputy new york city mayor howard wolfson, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and buzz feed editor in chief always busy ben smith. the first presidential debate that hour and a half spectacle of ob fewcation, confusion, triumph and exhaustion may be ancient history by the end of today, maybe. new numbers show the nation's unemployed rate dropped to 7.8%. the lowest number since president obama took office in 2009. while the economy added a relatively modest 114,000 jobs in september, new revisions show that july and august saw a combined increase of 86,000 more jobs than originally reported. needless to say, those numbers put a certain pep back in president obama's step. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. now every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country
contributor sam stein of the "the huffington post," former hillary clinton adviser and deputy new york city mayor howard wolfson, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and buzz feed editor in chief always busy ben smith. the first presidential debate that hour and a half spectacle of ob fewcation, confusion, triumph and exhaustion may be ancient history by the end of today, maybe. new numbers show the nation's unemployed rate dropped to 7.8%. the lowest number since...
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what mitt romney will do as president is the same thing that ronald reagan did and, frankly, bill clinton did. hold your principles. be tough. in the end you know you have to negotiate, and that's the only way this country can move forward. that is what president romney will do, and that's the president that people saw potential president that people saw next president they saw debating the other night. >> governor strickland, the last few seconds to you. is it going to be a closer race than it has been when we see the results come out? >> of course, ohio cannot be taken for granted, candy, by any candidate or either political party. it will be a very close race. i believe because of the president's saving of the american auto industry, which, in fact, is realed to manufacturing jobs in ohio, and ohio is coming back, and we're grateful for that, but the president deserves, many my judgment, the lion's share of the credit for ohio's economy, and its rebound. >> from ohio governor ted strickland. ohio attorney general and former senator mike dewine, thank you both for being here. >> up next
what mitt romney will do as president is the same thing that ronald reagan did and, frankly, bill clinton did. hold your principles. be tough. in the end you know you have to negotiate, and that's the only way this country can move forward. that is what president romney will do, and that's the president that people saw potential president that people saw next president they saw debating the other night. >> governor strickland, the last few seconds to you. is it going to be a closer race...
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then clinton came along. he did win. i would think there was this notion that bill clinton was inherently illegitimate and nothing too extreme to dislodge him from the white house because he was de-facto illegitimate. and i think with barack obama, this notion that this could not have happened. this was a nightmare inflicted on us by a.c.o.r.n. >> you are so funny. you have the cartoon sense, the way they look at this. a bunch of people got together. the idea that somehow it doesn't belong to the democrats and bill clinton went to russia when he was a kid, he's some sort of mole, some sort of mata hari. and even kennedy -- why do they think illegitimately, why does the white house belong in the hands of the toris, if you will, the conservatives? >> because i think it's symbolic. they feel the symbol of the country has got to represent the symbol of the values, pushing what they see is the american value system, which is capitalism unrestrained, this idea of freedom that they have actually glommed on to things, like tax c
then clinton came along. he did win. i would think there was this notion that bill clinton was inherently illegitimate and nothing too extreme to dislodge him from the white house because he was de-facto illegitimate. and i think with barack obama, this notion that this could not have happened. this was a nightmare inflicted on us by a.c.o.r.n. >> you are so funny. you have the cartoon sense, the way they look at this. a bunch of people got together. the idea that somehow it doesn't...
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i really do have a great deal of respect for secretary of state clinton. she's an extraordinary person within american politics. i don't know if she's the next president after this one. let's get through this election first. >>> up next, what becomes of losing vice presidential candidates. it's time for a pop quiz. we've got stickers. >> you know who loves debates? who? >> the fishes. the fish eat bait. >> i get. it's a thinker. i like that. >> it is a thinker. big bird, everyone. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. that's 3 moves, 5 jobs, 2 newborns. it's no wonder i'm getting gray. but kate -- still looks like...kate. with nice'n easy, all they see i
i really do have a great deal of respect for secretary of state clinton. she's an extraordinary person within american politics. i don't know if she's the next president after this one. let's get through this election first. >>> up next, what becomes of losing vice presidential candidates. it's time for a pop quiz. we've got stickers. >> you know who loves debates? who? >> the fishes. the fish eat bait. >> i get. it's a thinker. i like that. >> it is a thinker....
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but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know who's stupid when it comes to the economy. thanks so much for watching. thank you to the university of denver for hosting us. and to all of you watching at home. my colleague, chris mathews is also here in denver. he picks things up with "hardball." two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people j
but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know who's stupid when it comes to the economy. thanks so much for watching. thank you to the university of denver for hosting us. and to all of you watching at home. my colleague, chris mathews is also here in denver. he picks things up with "hardball." two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since,...
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there's no one like bill clinton. and when it's like all hands on deck, that's the biggest hand of all is to put bill clinton out there. and they will use him whenever he's available. >> whenever they can. good point, candy. by campaign accounts, romney and president obama, they doept know each other very well, obviously. we're told they've actually only met face-to-face three times over all of these years. so here's the question, what role will that play in tonight's 90-minute debate? >> you know, i was saying about this in some ways i think it makes it easier to go after one another. if you know a person and you've gotten to, you know, see them and maybe chitchat and have some casual talk with them and kind of know them as a person, it becomes pretty difficult to be really aggressive going after them. i think certainly that's something that mitt romney has to do with some nuance to be sure because we are talking about the president of the united states and people are naturally protective of the president. so i think
there's no one like bill clinton. and when it's like all hands on deck, that's the biggest hand of all is to put bill clinton out there. and they will use him whenever he's available. >> whenever they can. good point, candy. by campaign accounts, romney and president obama, they doept know each other very well, obviously. we're told they've actually only met face-to-face three times over all of these years. so here's the question, what role will that play in tonight's 90-minute debate?...
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you point to former president bill clinton as the master of warmth. i want to show a video of him during town hall with ross perot and then president bush back in 1992. kind of walk us through what we're seeing. >> okay. >> you know people who have lost their jobs and lost their homes. >> so he's walking toward this woman, toward this voter, away from the people onstage so he's focused on the voter, not on the other candidates. he's gentle. his body language is gentle. he's leaning toward her. he's even softened his voice. he's nodding. he makes incredible eye contact. he signals to people when he's talking to them you are the only person in the room. you're the most important person. it's that clinton tractor beam that really melted people. >> is that i feel your pain without actually saying it? >> that's exactly right. >> there's a classic moment between al gore and george w. bush from a debate in 2000. i want to show that, and i want to see what al gore does and how george bush reacts. >> it's not only your philosophy and what's your position on is
you point to former president bill clinton as the master of warmth. i want to show a video of him during town hall with ross perot and then president bush back in 1992. kind of walk us through what we're seeing. >> okay. >> you know people who have lost their jobs and lost their homes. >> so he's walking toward this woman, toward this voter, away from the people onstage so he's focused on the voter, not on the other candidates. he's gentle. his body language is gentle. he's...
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the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of 1965. it mandates federal oversight for states with a history of voting discrimination, when changing any rules for elections. challengers say the law is outdated and unnecessary. a big lineup of cases that could change the landscape of civil rights in america. fr frances coe, nbc news. >>> and now here's a look at some other stories making news early today in america. in maine, a group of strangers spring into action when an elderly woman drove her car into the portland harbor. the band of good samaritans pulled the 84-year-old out of her car moments before it sank. the woman is in stable condition. so
the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of...
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maybe he needs to go practice with bill clinton. john kerry is not cutting it. >> he should have bill clinton in his ear the whole time the explainer in chief. i think if bill clinton, i think he should probably bring big bird with him. >> didn't big bird get fired? >> big bird, get a safe house. do it now. >> the bromance lasts until november. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an overly passive barack obama is an overly aggressive joe biden. >> a bull in a china shop maybe. >> maybe. listen, if he's hard to control when he's on script, just imagine him unscripted in a debate. >> but the american people still like him. >> yeah. >> still like him. >> he's a likable guy. >> he's a regular joe. >> i think all republicans should love him because he is the gift that keeps on giving. >> so is paul ryan to some extent. go ahead, governor. >> it's been exactly one year since steve jobs passing. and my unsoli
maybe he needs to go practice with bill clinton. john kerry is not cutting it. >> he should have bill clinton in his ear the whole time the explainer in chief. i think if bill clinton, i think he should probably bring big bird with him. >> didn't big bird get fired? >> big bird, get a safe house. do it now. >> the bromance lasts until november. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your...
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this wasn't directed particularly at senator clinton. but the fact of the matter is, i have stood up consistently on this issue. >> when you see that back and forth, you really try to get him to answer that real -- that question there. do you think he missed an opportunity? >> he could have hit hillary -- that was the last debate at the kodak theater in los angeles. only the two of them were left standing among all of the democratic hopefuls and he really had an opening there to go after her on that issue, whether there was a humane policy, but he backed off. he didn't close the argument, if you will, unlike what we just saw mitt romney closed it against newt gingrich. he held back. i think it's part of that professorial style. if he holds back tomorrow night as he did against hillary clinton, he could have problems in these debates. >> so you've seen these two men in action, and up close. so what do you think as we head into tomorrow? >> i think it's going to be a strong debate. i think they're both extremely smart. they both have got a
this wasn't directed particularly at senator clinton. but the fact of the matter is, i have stood up consistently on this issue. >> when you see that back and forth, you really try to get him to answer that real -- that question there. do you think he missed an opportunity? >> he could have hit hillary -- that was the last debate at the kodak theater in los angeles. only the two of them were left standing among all of the democratic hopefuls and he really had an opening there to go...
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and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be contacted in time for him to make that correction. >> well, joan, last night romney made another surprising state on his health care plan this time. let's take a look at the lates variation on a theme which is i'm not as bad as i am. let's watch it. >> let's get the governor explain what you would do it obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> well, there's a lie. keep it simple. i reserve my right to use it once in a wile. his own guy came out and said it's not in there. talking points memo repo
and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be contacted in time for him to make that correction. >> well, joan, last night romney made...
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for that matter, good economic numbers helped bill clinton in 1996. back then, conservatives and republicans didn't make this kind of stuff up. but what's also insidious here is that the people who collect economic data for our government are really good. they really care about the integrity of their numbers. if there was something wrong here, they would cry to the heavens to say, somebody is manipulating these numbers. >> yeah, but the point is, if somebody was manipulating the numbers, why have high unemployment numbers in the first place? the problem, e.j. -- and i want you to weigh in on this, too, joan, they are now reaching to find a rational for why romney is running. if unemployment is now going down, if you have 30 months of private job creation, if you have bin laden dead, why is romney running? that's the problem they are getting if these numbers are out and they are out and they are valid numbers. >> he's losing rationale, and, you know, he began to lie today on the campaign trail because i think he said, what's happening is that people ar
for that matter, good economic numbers helped bill clinton in 1996. back then, conservatives and republicans didn't make this kind of stuff up. but what's also insidious here is that the people who collect economic data for our government are really good. they really care about the integrity of their numbers. if there was something wrong here, they would cry to the heavens to say, somebody is manipulating these numbers. >> yeah, but the point is, if somebody was manipulating the numbers,...
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bill clinton, i think there are 12 people attendees at a private residence. george clooney hosts this concert. a lot of big names. jennifer hudson, katy perry, stevie wonder are going to be performing. another fundraiser after that. a smaller gathering. i think that's $25,000 a person. then it's on to san francisco where he's got even more high-dollar, high-cost per plate dinners. $40,000 per plate. big bucks in california, whenever a president, especially democratic president, goes out there. he's going out there for basically one reason every four years. that's to hit the atm. in between, he's got an event where he's going to dedicate a national monument to cesar chavez, the famous champion of immigrant worker rights in the agricultural sector in the '60s and '70s. he's going to have some campaign events in ohio on his way back. he has a down day here on wednesday. thursday it's back down to florida. perhaps the key swing state, craig. >> mike, thanks. appreciate that. vice presidential candidate paul ryan surfaced after three days of intense debate camp. h
bill clinton, i think there are 12 people attendees at a private residence. george clooney hosts this concert. a lot of big names. jennifer hudson, katy perry, stevie wonder are going to be performing. another fundraiser after that. a smaller gathering. i think that's $25,000 a person. then it's on to san francisco where he's got even more high-dollar, high-cost per plate dinners. $40,000 per plate. big bucks in california, whenever a president, especially democratic president, goes out there....
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but let me remind you, in 2008, president obama ran when he was trying to get to the left of hillary clinton saying he opposed nafta. he ran on that in ohio. then as soon as the ohio primary was done, he never talked again about renegotiating nafta. we found out later he sent a top aide to canada to say ignore -- >> we got to go. one at a time. one at a time. let ari finish, please. >> both candidates have engaged in tactical maneuvering. this is nothing new. >> i guess i'm not saying it's anything new and i'm not saying both candidates don't shift and move to the center after primaries and stuff. the point is, it seems like he is doing that right now. we got to leave it there, ari, appreciate it. roland martin, thank you. >>> up next, breaking news. new information about a border patrol officer who was shot and killed in the line of duty. we talked about him last night. question tonight, was it friendly fire? what the fbi is saying tonight, next on "360." ♪ ♪ [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie has all the moist, chewy, deliciousness you desire. mmmm. tha
but let me remind you, in 2008, president obama ran when he was trying to get to the left of hillary clinton saying he opposed nafta. he ran on that in ohio. then as soon as the ohio primary was done, he never talked again about renegotiating nafta. we found out later he sent a top aide to canada to say ignore -- >> we got to go. one at a time. one at a time. let ari finish, please. >> both candidates have engaged in tactical maneuvering. this is nothing new. >> i guess i'm...
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>> one thing president clinton has done so successfully, he's not against wealth. he's just against hypocrisy, right? it's great -- he's for people doing well and he wants middle class people to do well. >> did you see a wildlife movie where the cougar or lion gets the antelope finally and starts to eat them. they always do it kindly. that's how bill clinton does it. >>> a number of new national polls out right now. a national journal poll found the race tied up. a national public radio has obama up by seven. these can't both be right. the latest nbc/wall street journal poll, always right, splits the voters. the new poll from nbc/wall street journal/telemundo, look at this, 50% spread, howard. >> this is a number -- >> this is the lead. >> this is a number that drives karl rove and -- >> the architect. >> the architect and most other republicans of the bush era completely crazy. >> because it was -- >> completely crazy because it's self-made. it's what mitt romney did to himself in the primaries, what the republicans did to themselves in the primary. they know unle
>> one thing president clinton has done so successfully, he's not against wealth. he's just against hypocrisy, right? it's great -- he's for people doing well and he wants middle class people to do well. >> did you see a wildlife movie where the cougar or lion gets the antelope finally and starts to eat them. they always do it kindly. that's how bill clinton does it. >>> a number of new national polls out right now. a national journal poll found the race tied up. a national...
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we know that -- chris: he doesn't like to fight with hillary clinton. >> he doesn't like to. he's really worried about appearing angry in public and that really isn't his natural demeanor but that was unilateral disarmament and was stunning. when mitt romney gives you an opening to talk about romney's accountant and doesn't say you have a terrific accountant. chris: s.e. cupp, your view, was it a reset for the challenger? >> they certainly think it was. i talked to some romney advisors and they see the reset in three parts. they think for supporters who really wanted to see a fight, they wanted to see this knockout, dragout fight, they got that. for undecideds who they call the tough customers, they think that this debate does what the ads have not been able to do which is spark their attention. for the soft obama voters of 2008, they think maybe this group is in play again. they think this is a hat trick moving forward. chris: let me ask you, we have a big jobs number, it was below eight and was promised three years ago and is below eight, 7.8. is it enough to give obama a r
we know that -- chris: he doesn't like to fight with hillary clinton. >> he doesn't like to. he's really worried about appearing angry in public and that really isn't his natural demeanor but that was unilateral disarmament and was stunning. when mitt romney gives you an opening to talk about romney's accountant and doesn't say you have a terrific accountant. chris: s.e. cupp, your view, was it a reset for the challenger? >> they certainly think it was. i talked to some romney...
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the same rate we had when bill clinton was president created 23 million new jobs, went from deficit to surplus. and look, the whole economy does well when taxes are, you know, kept low for middle class families and working families because when you guys have a little extra money in your pocket, you spend it. you have to on basic necessities. and that means business has more customers. and they make more profits they then hire more workers. and the economy as a whole begins to grow. but to do that and reduce the deficit at the same time, we've got to ask folks who can afford it to do a little bit more. now, last night this may have actually been the real mitt romney because he ruled out raising a dime on taxes on anyone ever no matter how much money they make ruled out closing those loopholes that are giving $4 billion of corporate welfare to the oil companies, refused to even acknowledge the loophole that gives tax breaks to corporations that move jobs overseas. when he was asked what he would do to actually cut spending and reduce the deficit, he said he'd eliminate public television
the same rate we had when bill clinton was president created 23 million new jobs, went from deficit to surplus. and look, the whole economy does well when taxes are, you know, kept low for middle class families and working families because when you guys have a little extra money in your pocket, you spend it. you have to on basic necessities. and that means business has more customers. and they make more profits they then hire more workers. and the economy as a whole begins to grow. but to do...
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clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but not a game changer, but you did write a piece -- we have candy crowley, who has the duties for one of these debates. you say don't forget, you will be treated differently because you are a woman. how is it different for women or minority moderators, when it comes to those tough questions on a woman's right to choose. is there an extra cautious line women need to take in asking that? >> she's not going to have the
clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access...
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ronald reagan and bill clinton. say your opponent's record is bad and still be optimistic about america and i think both of these guys forget to think that the president's a little better on it. romney is an optimistic guy. he will be better for himself if he focuses on optimism. >> talk about strength. >> the republican strategist talks about this all the time. the moments that matter are moments where you do something to show that you're a strong leader and either by implication or a frontal attack the other person is not as strong. reagan and clinton are masters of this, through their demeanor, ceasing the moment, it will be played over and over again of strength, not weakness. >> my real prickish question, a difficult one. the alien from abroad, and he looked at it and said, who is that guy? and he said, it's romney. it seems to be out of the normal conduct of people thaw meet. it seems odd. >> all of the polls have said two to one that they expect obama to outperform romney. so in that sense if he gets up there
ronald reagan and bill clinton. say your opponent's record is bad and still be optimistic about america and i think both of these guys forget to think that the president's a little better on it. romney is an optimistic guy. he will be better for himself if he focuses on optimism. >> talk about strength. >> the republican strategist talks about this all the time. the moments that matter are moments where you do something to show that you're a strong leader and either by implication...